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https://www.auto123.com/en/car-reviews/2018-hyundai-elantra-gt-first-drive/63800/

Here's another one that is pretty much a good review but implies that the Sport variant lacks the sportiness of the Sport sedan. It'll be hard for me to lay down money for the GT Sport when the Sport sedan is cheaper and has better performance, especially since I don't need a hatch (even though I prefer them). Still holding out hope that my impressions will be different than those of these reviewers.
 

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So the lack of performance is the common ground here. BUT in regards to performance, there's always something that we can do to up that just enough to make it on par or even quicker than the Sport sedan.
 

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So the lack of performance is the common ground here. BUT in regards to performance, there's always something that we can do to up that just enough to make it on par or even quicker than the Sport sedan.
Yes...lack of performance is the theme, and to your point, I've done a little bit of trolling on the Elantra turbo forum and it seems there are a few vendors that are starting to release some aftermarket performance parts for that car.

But yet we still get no hard performance data in these reviews. How much slower is the 0-60 and 1/4 mile time compared to the competitors? Might be negligible, but what bothers me is how they say the car feels slower. I started test driving cars a few months ago, and I've gotten a few under my belt.
1) Fiat 500x (since I tend to be brand loyal and want more space than the Abarth) -- nice car, but lacking in performance and too expensive considering that lack of performance.
2) Subaru Impreza (non STI/WRX) -- way too slow and boring, although very nice.
3) Mazda 3 Grand Touring hatch -- Boring. It's advertised as being fun to drive, but it felt sterile to me.
4) Kia Forte5 SX -- has pretty much exactly what I want, but too pricey without incentives, and would rather have the independent rear suspension rather than the torsion beam.
5) VW Golf GTI S -- same as the Kia, with a bunch more performance. I find the styling a little plain, but lots of performance and the price isn't too bad if you get the manual.
6) Hyundai Elantra Sport -- Cheapest car on the list yet has best performance and fun factor with the exception of the VW.

As I said in a different post, my tuned Fiesta ST was at least 1 second faster from 0-60 than my Abarth, but the Abarth has more character and is therefore more fun to drive. The Fiesta had one of the best manual gearboxes I've ever driven, and the Abarth's is crap, but I had to get an automatic transmission on the Abarth anyway since I was going to use it to teach my daughter to drive. So it should say something that I find the automatic Abarth more engaging than the Fiesta ST. So speed is less important than driving impressions.

The ST always felt out of sorts if it wasn't being driven hard. Here's what I like about the Abarth, Forte5 SX, Golf GTI S, and Elantra Sport -- they're Jeckyl and Hyde cars. All 4 of these cars will be compliant, solid daily drivers with decent gas mileage if driven sensibly (the Abarth is a little loud, exhaust wise, but I'm okay with that). But when you stab the throttle of all 4 of these cars, they behave very differently, and all 4 have an aggressive attitude to them. That's the component I'm looking for in my next car, and that's the piece that, according to those reviews, seems missing. But I never would take a journalists word for it, so when I test drive one of GT Sports, I'm going to be looking for that Jeckyl and Hyde character. If the car has it and isn't priced too far north of $23k, then I think I'll be okay. I can't wait to one of us gets to drive one so we can give our impressions.
 

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Since I'm always open to buying slightly used vehicles, the Honda Civic Si is on my list. Anyone okay with getting a 2015 Si will benefit a lot from low prices and plenty of modifications. Plus its Honda, Si is nothing new to them ;)
 

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Definitely can't take a journalists word for the feel of it because essentially it all depends on what you're used to, and what you're looking for. I'm really looking forward to getting in one myself and figuring this out.

For me, as much as performance numbers are a big thing, the feel of it is always even bigger. It's more fun to drive a slow car fast, than a fast car slow.
 

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That's what I would think whilst reading that. It's not as planted or can't handle the turns that quickly without feeling uneasy.
 

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I've seen a couple of recent YouTube videos where it appeared the EGTS was soaking the curves on some winding roads with no problem. If it handles 90% as good as the Elantra Sport Sedan, then I think that unless you plan on tracking it or running autocross, the handling should be good enough. Plus, that's something that's fairly easy to correct with mods if needed.

Just need a model to arrive at a dealer so I can test drive...I'll snag a Elantra Sport sedan if I don't like the driving characteristics of the EGTS, but I really want to like the EGTS because it'd be nice to have that storage available if needed. The sedan has a decent sized trunk, but it really can't compare. I'm pretty surprised there still no build tool on the Hyundai website, nor any concrete pricing info.
 

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I've seen a couple of recent YouTube videos where it appeared the EGTS was soaking the curves on some winding roads with no problem. If it handles 90% as good as the Elantra Sport Sedan, then I think that unless you plan on tracking it or running autocross, the handling should be good enough. Plus, that's something that's fairly easy to correct with mods if needed.

Just need a model to arrive at a dealer so I can test drive...I'll snag a Elantra Sport sedan if I don't like the driving characteristics of the EGTS, but I really want to like the EGTS because it'd be nice to have that storage available if needed. The sedan has a decent sized trunk, but it really can't compare. I'm pretty surprised there still no build tool on the Hyundai website, nor any concrete pricing info.
I think if we were to ask dealers they might show us their dealer portal unless its just as limited for them given the current timeline.
 

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I always assumed they hide what their dealer portal shows because of how much info is on there. Maybe the dealer can print out an order sheet?
 

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depends on what information is on it and state of the order book process
sometimes i even seen dealers write up their own order sheets to get a deposit down in a formal way by listing down whatever information they have at the moment.
 

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Was not even aware that was possible as I've assumed deposits are just contracts to buy one in the future, sometimes with no idea what the options and specs could be.
 

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Was not even aware that was possible as I've assumed deposits are just contracts to buy one in the future, sometimes with no idea what the options and specs could be.
well if you think about it, any way for them to generate more leads is a win for them especially when the person walking into the dealer really wants the car, no point letting them leave without getting their spot in line some how. its a business after all.
 

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More dependent on the buyer I suppose. Not something I would prefer to do before seeing the specs sheet and reading a few reviews. Due research before I buy any car, that's been my motto.
 
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