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Hey everyone, glad to have found this place. I just purchased my GT Sport a few weeks ago. This is actually my first turbo car, been loving the pick up on this thing. I'm leaning towards installing the SXTH Short Ram Intake and possibly the big mouth snorkel. This is my daily and it is CPO so I'm keeping the mods bolt-on. Might add an exhaust down the line but I do like the stock so we'll see. Exterior-wise, I'll be lightly tinting my headlights and taillights with film and dipping all the chrome/silver accents on the exterior black and dipping the wheels bronze...that is, if my dip kits ever arrive 😤
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Don't add an intake to a turbo car with an ECU, it will do nothing. On a turbo car, you need to open up the exhaust first and get an ECU tune. You can sometimes get a decent gain with just an ECU tune, but the ECU controls everything, just adding an intake isn't going to fool the computer. There's all kinds of restriction in the intake, because it has to go through tiny holes in the turbo, through tubing, through the holes in an intercooler, then back up to the engine, to the intake manifold, and not only is the intake only one very small part of this, it doesn't matter, because the turbo compressor is what feeds the engine, by pressurizing the air. It's a different dynamic than a NA car, and even the "intakes" made for those cars tend to be a sham much of the time. It really doesn't benefit from an intake, unless you have done something like go to a bigger turbo that needs to feed more air, but turbos have certain volumetric efficiencies and can only move so much air, it doesn't do any good to try and give it "more". Many OEM intakes have some kind of silencer in them to cut down on noise and the short-ram intakes can provide you with more engine-noise-that's usually reason #1 that people think they are getting "more power". Also, on a lot of turbo cars, the engine bay stays relatively warm and at a stop, even "cold air" intakes tend to bring in relatively warm or hot air, despite their claims. I've had a few turbo cars before this and worked on my WRX quite a bit. In general, you want to free up the DP and turbo-back exhaust as much as possible, put a tune on it, and it will go pretty nice, using some of the leeway designed into the system, which can also make you go into "limp mode" in some hotter environments if you are running it hard. Axle-back exhaust is just for making noise. A bigger intercooler can help, but then your turbo has to fill a bigger volume, so it can cause more lag. As you are probably thinking, it gets to kind of be a never-ending game of chasing your tail. Your stock limits are generally governed by the amount of PSI the stock turbo can reliably produce and how much fuel the injectors and fuel pump can supply.
 

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Don't add an intake to a turbo car with an ECU, it will do nothing. On a turbo car, you need to open up the exhaust first and get an ECU tune. You can sometimes get a decent gain with just an ECU tune, but the ECU controls everything, just adding an intake isn't going to fool the computer. There's all kinds of restriction in the intake, because it has to go through tiny holes in the turbo, through tubing, through the holes in an intercooler, then back up to the engine, to the intake manifold, and not only is the intake only one very small part of this, it doesn't matter, because the turbo compressor is what feeds the engine, by pressurizing the air. It's a different dynamic than a NA car, and even the "intakes" made for those cars tend to be a sham much of the time. It really doesn't benefit from an intake, unless you have done something like go to a bigger turbo that needs to feed more air, but turbos have certain volumetric efficiencies and can only move so much air, it doesn't do any good to try and give it "more". Many OEM intakes have some kind of silencer in them to cut down on noise and the short-ram intakes can provide you with more engine-noise-that's usually reason #1 that people think they are getting "more power". Also, on a lot of turbo cars, the engine bay stays relatively warm and at a stop, even "cold air" intakes tend to bring in relatively warm or hot air, despite their claims. I've had a few turbo cars before this and worked on my WRX quite a bit. In general, you want to free up the DP and turbo-back exhaust as much as possible, put a tune on it, and it will go pretty nice, using some of the leeway designed into the system, which can also make you go into "limp mode" in some hotter environments if you are running it hard. Axle-back exhaust is just for making noise. A bigger intercooler can help, but then your turbo has to fill a bigger volume, so it can cause more lag. As you are probably thinking, it gets to kind of be a never-ending game of chasing your tail. Your stock limits are generally governed by the amount of PSI the stock turbo can reliably produce and how much fuel the injectors and fuel pump can supply.
Pardon my ignorance, won't an ECU tune void my warranty?
 

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Depends, it's not legal for them to deny your warranty if it's something outside of the engine ECU tune, but the engine tune affects the engine and drivetrain, so they could say that your tune affected certain components. Sometimes dealers will try and use it as a blanket excuse to deny everything, but that's not legal, according to the magnussen act. Sometimes you have a dealer that is "friendly" to some mods and won't raise an issue if something happens. Just depends and putting a ECU tune on the car does mean they can deny for related issues. But the point I was getting to was that other mods on a modern turbo car as far as the engine is concerned are largely cosmetic, they aren't doing anything for power/tq, this is especially true for intakes/axle-back exhausts. If you are going to start modding engine stuff, go turbo-back exhaust (inc. downpipe) first.
 

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Thanks for the advice. I went ahead and placed an order for the SXTH intake. I really wanna hear the turbo spool and this apparently allows for that. I'm also going to a local exhaust guy for a custom setup, see what he quotes me. It kept raining so I couldn't do my black plastidip yet but I did manage to test out blacking out the front emblem. I'll post pics in a bit
 
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