Trail Braking

wriggly said:

Any software updates or tunes to allow using brakes and throttle simultaneously? Used to own a Polaris Indian Chieftain and the software prohibited braking and throttle inputs simultaneously. Enough complaints from owners and Polaris came out with a software update that took care of it.
Its one of the aggravating quirks I hate about my 2020 Elantra N Line. Really bugs me driving up my steep driveway and maneuvering into the garage.

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You must have a DCT. I use the hill assist. I have a steep drive too.

OG4boost said:

You must have a DCT. I use the hill assist. I have a steep drive too.

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Yessir, DCT. Lol, I didn’t even know the car has hill assist. Does it help?

Keeps you from drifting backwards when on an incline. I use it all the time.

At first I thought the OP was talking about Left Foot braking for cornering speed. On my previous FWD cars you could use the brakes to increase rotation in a turn while pushing thru with the throttle. I think a Saab driver discovered it. It used to work wonders on a light FWD on a road course. It makes the brakes hot but is actually very controllable over steer. According to our manual you can't do this on our car, it will freak out the ECU.

My '18 Fiesta ST had it and I miss it.

08G37to20_EGT_Nline said:

At first I thought the OP was talking about Left Foot braking for cornering speed. On my previous FWD cars you could use the brakes to increase rotation in a turn while pushing thru with the throttle. I think a Saab driver discovered it. It used to work wonders on a light FWD on a road course. It makes the brakes hot but is actually very controllable over steer. According to our manual you can't do this on our car, it will freak out the ECU.

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Yep, that’s what I was refering to. But I wasn’t interested in it regarding track work. I used trail braking quite a bit on my bikes. I find the impossibility of using left foot on the brake when negotiating into and out of the garage irritating. It wouldn’t be so bad if you could do smallish throttle inputs, but these N Lines are like a light switch off idle. It’s either too much gas or not enough. Makes for jerky slow maneuvers.

wriggly said:

Yep, that’s what I was refering to. But I wasn’t interested in it regarding track work. I used trail braking quite a bit on my bikes. I find the impossibility of using left foot on the brake when negotiating into and out of the garage irritating. It wouldn’t be so bad if you could do smallish throttle inputs, but these N Lines are like a light switch off idle. It’s either too much gas or not enough. Makes for jerky slow maneuvers.

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I wonder if using the manual transmission mode to lock it in second gear would make small inputs less jerky.?

08G37to20_EGT_Nline said:

I wonder if using the manual transmission mode to lock it in second gear would make small inputs less jerky.?

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Sounds logical, I’m going to try it. I used to own a Challenger ScatPac and to do launches without roasting the tires I’d put it in manual and start in second.

Tried putting it in manual and starting in 2nd. 2nd gear won’t actually engage until getting to about 8 mph.
Hill assist is already turned on in my car as well. Just got home from a dr appointment and tried putting it in sport mode and moving the shifter to the manual position. While still not able to brake while giving throttle, the throttle was less responsive and smoother for some reason. I would have expected the opposite. Go figure.
It’s not really a problem for me, but the wife who doesn’t drive the car would probably freak out if she had to drive it into the garage. She has an Impreza and her car allows riding the brake while giving throttle inputs.

It‘ll be a little trippy the first time I drive it up on ramps to do my first oil change. That’s when I usually ride the brake a little with my left foot while giving gas.